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NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by Grossefavourite » Jun Tue 25, 2019 8:48 am

Wimbledon 2019: Rafael Nadal says seeding formula 'doesn't seem right'

World number two Rafael Nadal says "it doesn't seem right" that he could be seeded behind world number three Roger Federer at Wimbledon.

Wimbledon seeding is different from the other Grand Slams in that it does not always follow world rankings and is affected by grass-court performances.

It means Federer may be seeded ahead of Nadal, who could be in the same half of the draw as Novak Djokovic.

"It's just Wimbledon that does it," said 12-time French Open winner Nadal.

"It is better to be second than third, but if they consider that I have to be third, I will accept."

Wimbledon seedings will be announced on Wednesday and Nadal, 33, is likely to be behind defending champion Djokovic and eight-time winner Federer, who won his 10th title at the grass-court tournament in Halle last week.

The Spaniard lost in the Wimbledon semi-finals to world number one Djokovic last year but had not made it past the fourth round in his five previous appearances.

If he is seeded third, Nadal might have to beat Djokovic and Federer to win his first Wimbledon title since 2010.

The world's top 32 players will be seeded, but the order may not follow that of the world rankings.

Wimbledon's system favours grass-court specialists - taking a player's ATP ranking points, doubling the points earned at grass-court tournaments in the past year and adding on 75% of the points earned on grass the previous year.

The women's seedings follow the WTA ranking list but changes can be made for a "balanced draw", which is why Serena Williams, ranked 183rd before last year's tournament, was 25th seed in 2018.

The 2019 tournament begins on Monday.

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Re: NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by djmm1962 » Jun Tue 25, 2019 9:00 am

Uh oh!!

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Re: NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by djmm1962 » Jun Wed 26, 2019 7:26 am

Nadal didn't get it:


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Re: NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by Grossefavourite » Jun Wed 26, 2019 8:21 am

djmm1962 wrote:
Jun Wed 26, 2019 7:26 am
Nadal didn't get it:

Extra motivation if he meets Rojay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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World number two Rafael Nadal has been seeded third for Wimbledon this year behind top-ranked Novak Djokovic and world number three Roger Federer.

The Spaniard now has a 50-50 chance of being in the same half as Djokovic and thus could meet him in the semi-finals.

Had he been second seed, rather than Federer, he could not have met the defending champion before the final.

The women's seedings reflect the world rankings, so Serena Williams is 11th and Britain's Johanna Konta 19th.

Nadal says Wimbledon seeding 'doesn't seem right'
Wimbledon seeding is different from the other Grand Slams in that it does not always follow world rankings and is affected by grass-court performances.

Nadal said it "doesn't seem right" when asked about his likely seeding behind eight-time champion Federer for the championships, which begin on Monday.

Last year's finalist and world number eight Kevin Anderson is seeded fourth, and John Isner moves up to ninth after his run to the 2018 semi-finals.

Anderson's elevation to fourth seed means Dominic Thiem, Alexander Zverev and Stefanos Tsitsipas all drop down one position in the seedings compared to their world ranking.


Britain's Kyle Edmund, the world number 31, is the 30th seed while British duo Jamie Murray and Neal Skupski are seeded 10th in the men's doubles.

French Open champion Ashleigh Barty tops the ladies' seedings for the first time at a grand slam, with Naomi Osaka second and defending champion Angelique Kerber fifth.

The women's seedings follow the WTA ranking list but changes can be made for a 'balanced draw', which is the reason seven-time champion Serena Williams - ranked 183rd before last year's championship - was seeded 25th in 2018.

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Re: NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by djmm1962 » Jun Wed 26, 2019 10:58 am

The Djoker chimes in:


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Re: NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by Grossefavourite » Jun Wed 26, 2019 11:14 am

It's obvious no one, including Roger and Nadal, wants to face Djoker before the final, and the committee took sides in favor of Roger.

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Re: NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by Grossefavourite » Jun Wed 26, 2019 1:32 pm

Cilic offers Nadal a Wimbledon reality check

Reuters•June 26, 2019

LONDON (Reuters) - Spaniard Rafael Nadal got a quickfire reminder of the challenge he faces to win a third Wimbledon title as he was blown away by big-serving Marin Cilic in an exhibition match on Wednesday.

Nadal, who turned 33 this month, has opted not to play any competitive tournaments on grass ahead of the Championships, practicing instead at home on grass in Mallorca.

He lacked sharpness at the Hurlingham Club in London as a well-drilled Cilic sent him packing in less than an hour -- a sweating Nadal going straight from court to a waiting black Rolls Royce and away minutes after his 6-3 6-3 defeat.

"This was the first time that I played points and that was too much for me today," Nadal, who won a record-extending 12th French Open title earlier this month, said on court at the Aspall Tennis Classic alongside the Thames.

"I'm excited to be back at Wimbledon. This type of match today helps to try to be ready. Of course I decided not to play a tournament before Wimbledon, I'm 33 so I need to save energy.

"I will just try to improve a little bit every single day and on Friday I have will try to be a bit better."

Nadal, who won Wimbledon in 2008 and 2010, reached the semi-final last year at the All England Club but had struggled in his previous five appearances at the event.

That was reflected in Wednesday's seedings which put Nadal, the world number two, at three, behind eight-time champion Roger Federer who was bumped up one place from his ranking.

Cilic benefited from Wimbledon's unique seeding system and will be 13th -- up five from his ATP ranking of 18.

While Wednesday's match was not an official one he showed exactly why he will be a threat with his hefty serve and forehand giving Nadal little opportunity to get his teeth into any rallies longer than three or four strokes.

Nadal has been critical of Wimbledon's seeding reflecting grasscourt results for the past two years, but Cilic, runner-up in 2017, was certainly not complaining.

"I think they have been doing it for years," he told Reuters. "I've moved into the 13 to 16 group so that definitely helps me avoid higher seeds before the fourth round.

"There are positives and negatives about it. The grass is not as it was in the past when the claycourters struggled to go through one or two rounds at Wimbledon, it's more playable.

"If you see the top 32 these days they all play well on every surface so I guess you could just stay with the rankings."

Nadal will practise at Wimbledon on Thursday before returning to Hurlingham for another match on Friday.

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Re: NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by Grossefavourite » Jun Wed 26, 2019 2:06 pm

Is THIS fair? Serena was the finalist last year too.
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Last year's finalist and world number eight Kevin Anderson is seeded fourth, and John Isner moves up to ninth after his run to the 2018 semi-finals.

Anderson's elevation to fourth seed means Dominic Thiem, Alexander Zverev and Stefanos Tsitsipas all drop down one position in the seedings compared to their world ranking.

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Re: NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by Grossefavourite » Jun Wed 26, 2019 2:09 pm

Patrick McEnroe

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Nadal should be seeded 2 @Wimbledon

Period

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Re: NADAL Wants Higher Seeding Than Roger

Post by Grossefavourite » Jul Tue 09, 2019 10:41 am

The AEC is so predictably biased in favor of Roger. Right before he and Rafa are scheduled to meet on CC, they put Roger on CC so that he's more used to it, while relegating Rafa to C1. Disgraceful.

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