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Post by djmm1962 » Aug Fri 31, 2018 7:17 am

Thanks, Grav!!

I'm not getting high domination points because of my order of players. Crap!!

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Post by Mytiwtiw » Aug Fri 31, 2018 12:37 pm

Told ‘ya if have Maria you’ll have all the Domination you want 😁👍
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Post by Jeff in Texas » Sep Sat 01, 2018 1:24 am

Are Serena's points correctly calculated? They seem too high

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Post by PeterSkan » Sep Sat 01, 2018 7:56 am

Are Serena's points correctly calculated? They seem too high
Looks like the scores are correctly recorded in the matrix. She has dominated the opposition and so has large D points, plus Q points for her victory over sister Venus.

Over three matches ... 36W - 25L = 25 differential * seeding

If seeded first, = 150 points * 1.5 to prorate for best 3 out of 5 = 225 D points

plus Victory points = 10+20+30 =60

plus Q points = 16 [i.e. 33-Venus ranking = 33-17 = 16]

Total = 301

That's what people seeding Serena 1st are credited with. So the math is right, provided the match scores have been entered correctly [i.e. Serena has a 25 GamesWon vs. GamesLost differential over 3 matches].
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Post by Jeff in Texas » Sep Sat 01, 2018 7:54 pm

thanks for explanation! :D

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Post by Mytiwtiw » Sep Sat 01, 2018 10:30 pm

Yes! I’m in the “ gangs of New York “ I’m Leonard de Carpio👍🏻👍🏻
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Post by PeterSkan » Sep Sun 02, 2018 9:16 am

Congratulations to the three contestants with fully intact teams through 3 rounds of play [1st place Windsongs; 2nd place TennisAnyone74; 6th place Ribbons]. Here's the tally for current leader Windsongs' "Ultra Team":

Nadal 108 60 6 174
Serena 187 60 16 263
Djokovic 97 60 7 164
Keys 70 60 0 130
Stephens 44 60 0 104
Nishikori 23 60 20 103

I haven't heard the fat lady sing yet, there are still lots of options on the table. Onwards to the Round of 16!
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Post by PeterSkan » Sep Sun 02, 2018 9:17 am

Hey Grav - how about some of your expert analysis on the likely podium finishers ...
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Post by Graveller » Sep Sun 02, 2018 9:33 am

#ed_op#font color="brown"#ed_cl#@ #ed_op#b#ed_cl#PeterSkan#ed_op#/b#ed_cl#:#ed_op#/font#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl# #ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#A bit too early... too many possibilities... Once we know the QF, we can have a go at it... Probably we will need to know the result of Djokovic vs Federer in the QF to make a meaningful assessment.#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl#

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Post by Graveller » Sep Sun 02, 2018 1:51 pm

Thiem the first QF; 79 teams and no one in the Skan picked him....

we are all tennis-amateurs....
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Post by djmm1962 » Sep Tue 04, 2018 7:22 am

Bye-Bye Fed and Maria!!

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Post by Graveller » Sep Thu 06, 2018 8:34 am

#ed_op#font color="brown"#ed_cl#@ #ed_op#b#ed_cl#PeterSkan#ed_op#/b#ed_cl#:#ed_op#/font#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl# So we are now in the SF, and it is actually a two-horse race between Windsongs and tennisanyone74.#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#I cannot see anyone else winning. #ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#Windsondgs wins if#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#a) Keys reaches the F#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#b) Osaka loses in the  F, but Nishikori gets to the F#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#c) Nishikori wins the F#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#Any other scenario will result in a win for tennisanyone74#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#I was considering that IcePrincess could win too because she has DelPotro, but I think that she is too much behind tennisanyone74. #ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#If the tree remaining team members from Iceprincess would get to the final (Djoko, DelPo, Serena), then tennisanyone74 would also have three finalists: Djoko, Serena + winner of Osaka vs Keys.#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#The only difference is one player (DelPo & Keys/Osaka), it is very hard to close a 300-points gap with one player. It may be possible if DelPo wins with a massive score vs Nadal, And Serena wins the final with a massive score (bagels and breadsticks). In both cases, Tennisanyone would get (a lot of) negative points for Nadal and for both losses of Keys and Osaka in the SF and F. #ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl#
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Post by Graveller » Sep Thu 06, 2018 8:39 am

Divan25 can move up to #3 if Nishikori does well (and maybe get to #2 if Nishikori wins the slam). Nihikori losing in the final will not get him to #2 because the current #2 tennisanyone has both Osaka and Keys (Final points), and Divan has neither of them.

But if Keys wins her SF today, I think that it all will be decided in favor of Windsongs.
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Post by Graveller » Sep Thu 06, 2018 8:42 am

And one more note: Anishmitch has both Nishikori and Keys, so will definitely get on the podium if both win the slam, but Windsongs has both too, so impossible to catch (500 points gap)
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Post by PeterSkan » Sep Thu 06, 2018 11:27 am

Great analysis as always, Grav!
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